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 Post subject: NZ 7.8 Quake (UPDATING)
PostPosted: Fri, 18-11-16, 18:26 GMT 
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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
PostPosted: Fri, 18-11-16, 19:59 GMT 
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Not sure what you are alluding to. The tiny text on the plot includes

Timeseries Chart between ....and...
and
LHC BOFSU RADIAL_LOOP_ERROR_01

How about Aliens ready to attack or perhaps new gravitational waves ? ;-)

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PostPosted: Fri, 18-11-16, 21:08 GMT 
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It shows the effect on the LHC's beam due to one of the recent New Zealand earthquakes.

Fermilab has seen equivalent effects. For example, see http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2011/03/1 ... -emotions/

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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
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Selden wrote:
It shows the effect on the LHC's beam due to one of the recent New Zealand earthquakes.

Fermilab has seen equivalent effects. For example, see http://www.quantumdiaries.org/2011/03/1 ... -emotions/


Thanks Selden,

I had missed that image. But otherwise, a "time series" just represents a series of measurements (no matter what) as function of time. So I suppose an electrical short cut down at LHC would have given a similar phenomenology. Of course the observed coincidence between Fermilab, CERN and possibly other labs points clearly to an event at much larger scale.

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I thought you'd be mildly interested in that image Fridger.
Sorry for no description but assumed you'd recognise the cause of this sort of artifact.
Here: is the relevant webpage with more info

They say that this one released 12 quadrillion Joules of energy ... which is more than the sum-total of all other quakes in NZ over the last 6-7 years ... (including the Canterbury and Christchurch quakes of 2010/11).
This makes it ~ 1/16th the energy of Japan's March 2011 quake, which released 190 quadrillion Joules.

I'll try to post a few pics when I get time if anyone's interested. There's been some quite extraordinary changes to the landscape here...including an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 landslides (colloquially known as "slips" in NZ), and we now have significant quantities of new land (from seafloor uplift) .

See also: #NewZealand cows trapped

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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
PostPosted: Sat, 19-11-16, 16:44 GMT 
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Hi CC,

indeed my thoughts were a lot down under in NZ after you had these quakes again so close to the last devastating one with 185 people killed.

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I thought you'd be mildly interested in that image Fridger.
Sorry for no description but assumed you'd recognise the cause of this sort of artifact.
Here: is the relevant webpage with more info

Yes, I am VERY much interested in that material. Actually, you perhaps remember that in 2011 I wrote here various scientific reports about measuring the propagation of radiation from the Fukushima disaster etc. This one for example
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=401
had 36855 reads! I still keep getting invitations to conferences about such topics ;-)
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They say that this one released 12 quadrillion Joules of energy ... which is more than the sum-total of all other quakes in NZ over the last 6-7 years ... (including the Canterbury and Christchurch quakes of 2010/11).
This makes it ~ 1/16th the energy of Japan's March 2011 quake, which released 190 quadrillion Joules.

I'll try to post a few pics when I get time if anyone's interested. There's been some quite extraordinary changes to the landscape here...including an estimated 80,000 - 100,000 landslides (colloquially known as "slips" in NZ), and we now have significant quantities of new land (from seafloor uplift) .

Yes please do so!!

Thanks,
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PS: Sorry for the current silence here as to more topics of public interest, but we have bundled all our free resources towards coding and researching new features for celestia.Sci...

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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
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https://www.reddit.com/r/lhc/comments/5 ... y_the_lhc/

An earthquake in New Zealand ( M 7.8 ) at 11:02 UTC on November 13th 2016 (12:02 local LHC time) is visible together with the earth tides on the mean LHC orbit (here expressed in relative energy change) during a very long fill with proton and lead ion beams.

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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
PostPosted: Mon, 21-11-16, 12:03 GMT 
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A selection of videos and images...

Drone video of the Kekerengu Fault rupture:CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO Courtesy GEONET / GNS Science
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Hillsides stripped by landslides: CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO
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Rarely captured phenomena of Earthquake Lights 14/11/2016 12.04am: CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO
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The famous "land-surfing" cows: CLICK HERE FOR VIDEO
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A new valley is created in the Hurunui District (Go to: Hurunui District Council's Facebook page) for more.
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An article on how much the Earth moved:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86565581/Finding-out-how-much-the-Earth-moved-during-massive-earthquake

A video about the science of the quakes (energy release, future scenario probabilities, etc):
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86569505/geonet-releases-future-scenario-forecasts-there-will-be-more-quakes

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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
PostPosted: Mon, 21-11-16, 12:11 GMT 
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Some interesting science based (Geonet) pages:
Future Scenarios and Aftershock Forecasts
Coastal Uplift
Landslides and Landslide dams
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 Post subject: Re: ATTN: Fridger
PostPosted: Mon, 21-11-16, 12:26 GMT 
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2 videos at ground level on the coast road...
(Both videos contain some explicit language).

1. In the first video Asher Trafford filmed his drive along SH1 north of Parnassus, which shows just how damaged SH1 is after the Kaikoura quake:
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2. Scroll down the page for the second (shorter) video where Clayton Lindstorm stands at a sheer drop where the highway has broken, and also shows seafloor which has been exposed by coastal uplift:
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-11-16, 16:35 GMT 
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Thanks a lot, CC.

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Does anyone have a really plausible explanation of so-called "Earthquake Lights" that were also noted during the NZ quake??

I have read the Wiki article about them....

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I haven't read the Wiki, but here's a few theories in our media:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/86420960/Earthquake-strange-glowing-in-the-sky-possibly-earthquake-lightning

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/latest-edition/latest-news/86420960/Earthquake-strange-glowing-in-the-sky-possibly-earthquake-lightning

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/nz-earthquake/86543315/how-a-te-papa-geologist-saw-the-earthquake

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Here's a map I constructed from GEONET data of all quakes of magnitude 5 or greater, and less than 50km depth, within approx. 1000km of Kaikoura since 01/01/1800, including the 8.2 magnitude Wairarapa quake of 23/01/1855.
(a total of 1269 events).
-- If you're easily scared :shock: , focus on the RHS rather than the LHS :mrgreen: (same data scaled differently to give a better indication of locations relative to the geography):
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red: >= 8
orange: >= 7
yellow: >= 6
blue: >= 5

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PostPosted: Tue, 22-11-16, 21:37 GMT 
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for the "lights"
other than the quartz in the granite compressing then uncompressing causing A LOT of static discharge in the thousands of megawatts range

more than a thunderstorm

and ionized O2 and CO2 and other gasses glow very nicely near a BIG Tesla coil

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PostPosted: Tue, 22-11-16, 22:40 GMT 
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I'm sure that anyone who's taken a polyester jumper off in a dark room has seen and felt a little crackle and pop.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that rubbing 2000 sq.km + of rock together might just produce something similar. :mrgreen:

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