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Almost good for Progress! A shot of the rear part would be nice...
Now, Pirs is really annoying, I'm also searching from my side, but no luck till now... :(


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ElChristou wrote:
Almost good for Progress! A shot of the rear part would be nice... Now, Pirs is really annoying, I'm also searching from my side, but no luck till now... :(

I made another search for Progress' back side images, but without fortune. It has always been imaged from ISS when approaching, so only its nose side is visible. Anyway I have two nice nose images, that I'm posting in the following message.
Tell me if you want more.

Regarding PIRS, I found something, dunno if this will help you someway.
Here:

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Moreover I found a very detailed drawing of DEXTRE, hope this will be not too late for eventual changes-addictions to your model.

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Here the Progress' images:

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Cool docs for Pirs! We can even see in the drawing the piece I want to know about that is in the rear part of the Progress! (the side of the camera, the kind of dish that wasn't present on Soyuz)

Still I'm a bit stuck with Pirs' arms; I know they are some kind of extensible boom but I have no clue about the details... :(

Indeed the Dextre drawing is nice... but too late! Too bad, but it's not a problem anyway!


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Sorry for late Dextre's image, but I was not searching for it, but for ISS PIRS, and there it was. :shock:
Well, at least I'm happy that the PIRS images may be useful, but I've not yet finished, I'm going to check for Russian web pages, so wait a couple days, I hope to have other information for its arms.
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Well, this time we had a bit more fortune with Russian web pages.
I found up to now some more images, hope useful.
Here they are:

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This is from a movie:

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Like this one:

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But this IMO will solve your doubts:

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Moreover I found two youtube movies, very interesting:

"ISS Russian EVA 18"

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=fDQqS_VyEqk&NR=1

"Russian Spacewalk, July 10, 2008"

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=dTxKs6ky8rI&NR=1

And this is an overall flight view of all ISS modules, named "Tour of the International Space Station":

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=kw5-n5Js6DM&NR=1

Hope you'll like them, but inform me if this is enough or I have to dig more.
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These YouTube sequences are very interesting despite we cannot see much of the details. I'm right thinking these booms are hand controled?


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I searched for hours to find the NASA original higher-res movies, but no luck there.
Anyhow here are 2 images taken from those movies:

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In these images two astronauts in Orlan spacesuits are performing tasks on the arms, and later they use them.
At the end of the first movie, it looks like the astronaut at the arm end is driving it, just like they do with Shuttle's Canadarm, I think.
Anyway I'll search a bit more in Russian pages.

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http://suzymchale.com/kosmonavtka/dc1.html

I found this:
[size=117][color=red][i]"Two manually-operated Strela, «Стрела» (“Arrowâ€

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I'm almost sure the shuttle's Canadarm is NOT manually driven. What make you think that?


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ElChristou wrote:
I'm almost sure the shuttle's Canadarm is NOT manually driven. What make you think that?

If I would be on the Canadarm astronauts link, I would like very much the possibility to move Canadarm myself, instead of having it done by someone 15 meter far away.
Looking at this image you'll understand what I mean.

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Anyway here what I found:

"The basic RMS configuration consists of a manipulator arm; an RMS display and control panel, including rotational and translational hand controllers at the orbiter aft flight deck flight crew station; and a manipulator controller interface unit that interfaces with the orbiter computer. Most of the time the arm operators see what they are doing by looking at the Advanced Space Vision System screen next to the controllers.

One flight crew member operates the RMS from the aft flight deck control station, and a second flight crew member usually assists with television camera operations. This allows the RMS operator to view RMS operations through the aft flight deck payload and overhead windows and through the closed-circuit television monitors at the aft flight deck station."


So OK, you are right, the Shuttle Canadarm is operated by the Shuttle Main Deck. :oops:
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Pfff... :o remember I modelled the flight deck and I during the process I've been reading some similar description of the Canadarm control panel you can see in the model (near the rear windows of the fligh deck)...

Now the Station Canadarm (the one of your above shot) should be similarly driven from ground control (case of dextre) or someone in the station. Now I don't know in which module is the control system...


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Now the Station Canadarm (the one of your above shot) should be similarly driven from ground control (case of dextre) or someone in the station. Now I don't know in which module is the control system...

Christophe, are you just curious or do you really need it for the model?
If you need I'll search for.
Inform me, please.
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No curiosity. No inside modeling, please!
I'm still toying with Pirs. Hard to keep it low poly...


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ElChristou wrote:
No curiosity. No inside modeling, please!

Pffff, thanks God, I was hoping for this reply! :wink:
Have you got all you need for PIRS, or something is still missing?
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The boom are still kind of unclear (specially the articulation) but I fear the info is well buried. If you find something else even for the others structures around it, there is still time to make it better... (today and tomorrow I'll be busy and will not be able to work on it... :( )


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