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Author:  ElChristou [ Thu, 12-02-09, 17:13 GMT ]
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CG means "Computer Graphics"; I do have seen bunch of CG renderings just like the ones in your last shots of the pdf doc. They are good to build the model, but I cannot be sure of the details without a cross control with real life shots.

The stuff in the pdf are just great!

I will keep your video links for later when I'll start the modeling (-> won't download these right now).

Andrea, I've met a problem on Zvezda. Articulations of the panels. I guess we won't find better shots than what we have now, so what if we ask at shatters for a bit of help from our Russian's members?

Author:  Andrea [ Thu, 12-02-09, 17:43 GMT ]
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ElChristou wrote:
CG means "Computer Graphics"; I do have seen bunch of CG renderings just like the ones in your last shots of the pdf doc. They are good to build the model, but I cannot be sure of the details without a cross control with real life shots.

Ooops, sorry, I had to remember this, my fault.
I obviously agree with you.

ElChristou wrote:
The stuff in the pdf are just great! I will keep your video links for later when I'll start the modeling (-> won't download these right now).
Andrea, I've met a problem on Zvezda. Articulations of the panels. I guess we won't find better shots than what we have now, so what if we ask at shatters for a bit of help from our Russian's members?

Christophe, I agree on asking to Russian guys at Shatters.net, but before that please gimme a couple hours to extract from the many images I have collected up to now (and I don't know if you have all of them, BTW) to show you what we have. 8)
If they will be not sufficient, then let's try the other way.
Do you agree?
Please inform me.
Bye soon

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Thu, 12-02-09, 17:54 GMT ]
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No prob!

Author:  Andrea [ Thu, 12-02-09, 23:20 GMT ]
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OK, this is a page with many Zvezda CG movies, that anyway I find interesting:

http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/ISS_OVR/assembly2_overview.htm

Here an interesting drawing showing the (14, so many!) windows of this module:

http://suzymchale.com/kosmonavtka/sm.html

And here the summary of what I have about Zvezda solar panels.
I chose the hi-res images only, so the originals are way bigger than what shown here:

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Hope this will help you, otherwise let's try for Russian friends in Shatters.net.
Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Fri, 13-02-09, 13:32 GMT ]
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The CG is done with the model from Nasa that Linuxman use for his station. Despite being not that bad, it don't match the reality, many elements shown on this model are not here in reality, so I prfer not use it as reference. The pdfs are pretty welcome as my actual count of windows was only 11!

For the panels, yep, nothing new. I'll post at shatters a bit later on.

Author:  Andrea [ Fri, 13-02-09, 13:55 GMT ]
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ElChristou wrote:
The CG is done with the model from Nasa that Linuxman use for his station. Despite being not that bad, it don't match the reality, many elements shown on this model are not here in reality, so I prfer not use it as reference. The pdfs are pretty welcome as my actual count of windows was only 11! For the panels, yep, nothing new. I'll post at shatters a bit later on.

OK Christophe.
BTW, I know that there was a ground extension test of one solar panel, but I found no images.
Perhaps you should address our Russian friends in this direction, because I doubt that there may be any image of the real panel extension, taken from the ISS, or at least I never heard of this.
Let's hope.
Meanwhile, here the side view of the aft Zvezda's axial docking port, that we were missing in such detail:

Image

Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Fri, 13-02-09, 14:22 GMT ]
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Andrea wrote:
BTW, I know that there was a ground extension test of one solar panel, but I found no images. Perhaps you should address our Russian friends in this direction,...


I have opened the thread at shatters; can you post about this clue?


Andrea wrote:
Meanwhile, here the side view of the aft Zvezda's axial docking port, that we were missing in such detail:


Yes I saw it in your link above; the good point here are the pitch trusters, they are inclined! I was about to put them perpendicular to the axis of the craft...

Author:  Andrea [ Fri, 13-02-09, 15:25 GMT ]
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ElChristou wrote:
Andrea wrote:
BTW, I know that there was a ground extension test of one solar panel, but I found no images. Perhaps you should address our Russian friends in this direction,...

I have opened the thread at shatters; can you post about this clue?


I have posted there just now.
BTW, searching again for this, I found a link, here:

http://spaceflightnow.com/station/zvezda/build_qt.html

The caption says:
"Manufacturing the Zvezda module" SPACEFLIGHT NOW DIGITAL VIDEO- Posted: July 9, 2000
One of Zvezda's power-generating solar arrays is unfurled in a factory test as the module is constructed in 1998. Narration provided by NASA's Mark Geyer, manager of ISS program integration. Source video: NASA TV (265k, 29sec QuickTime file)".

But even if I have Quicktime 7 installed on my pC, it asks for a plugin that I cannot find, so I've not seen the movie.
Then I tried the same link under I.E. Explorer, and everything went OK (sometimes Firefox is annoying me!).
The video is very small and short, gives a nice side view of the completed Zvezda but the solar array deployement is missing, dunno why.
I'll make more searches for this movie at NASA's links, pfff! :evil:

ElChristou wrote:
Andrea wrote:
Meanwhile, here the side view of the aft Zvezda's axial docking port, that we were missing in such detail:

Yes I saw it in your link above; the good point here are the pitch trusters, they are inclined! I was about to put them perpendicular to the axis of the craft...

Very nice, happy it helps.
Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  Andrea [ Sat, 14-02-09, 14:17 GMT ]
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Could not resist, sorry. :twisted:
Digging around I found this very detailed drawing of Shuttle's docking system (the view is looking AFT):

Image

Nice, isn't it?
Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Sat, 14-02-09, 14:34 GMT ]
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Yep, but don't you think it's not enough in the actual model? ;)

Author:  Andrea [ Sat, 14-02-09, 14:55 GMT ]
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Hehehe, I was only joking a bit. :twisted:
I only wished to give another example of serendipity, because I was searching for documents regarding the exact Shuttle's positioning during ISS docking, following your thread in Shatters.net "Help from Russian Folk needed!", and while doing it I found this.
"SERENDIPITY= to find something not because you were searching that thing, but because you were searching, anyway."

Just with a single word, with Horace Walpole's silent approval (I hope so, because he died on 1792)...
"Fortune!" :wink:
Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Sat, 14-02-09, 15:41 GMT ]
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Didn't knew the term... :o

Author:  Andrea [ Sat, 14-02-09, 16:42 GMT ]
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My God, too late! :(
Going on with the same search, I found this document, that I uploaded here:

http://ftp.tiscali.it/andrea_celestia/iss.familiarization.pdf

It's a big .pdf file, about 6 MB, but IMO it's worth the downloading time.
Just to give you an idea, look here:

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Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

All images are from screen capture, smaller and 7/12 quality respect to the originals.
Can something be still useful, e.g. the truss structures?
I hope so.
Bye

Andrea :D

Author:  ElChristou [ Sun, 15-02-09, 23:33 GMT ]
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Ah yes, nice! some stuff still will help... very nice finding!

Author:  Andrea [ Sun, 15-02-09, 23:48 GMT ]
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So, may I add a new English word?
No?
Well, I'll do it anyway.
It's
SERENDORTUNE
or
FORTIPITY,
as yoiu prefer, i.e. a good mix of Serendipity and Fortune, why not.
Joking, obviously. :lol:
Happy you'll can use something of this, Christophe.
Bye

Andrea :D

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